tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2263272204194822728.post8948117155711475036..comments2022-03-26T18:04:46.073-07:00Comments on FINAL EVENTS: UFOs, Demons and the Government: Final Events, Now Available:Nick Redfernhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07199813303416083671noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2263272204194822728.post-44619743328546979462010-09-14T13:11:19.796-07:002010-09-14T13:11:19.796-07:00Trained:
Personally speaking, having interviewed ...Trained:<br /><br />Personally speaking, having interviewed various CE members, I think that their conclusions and interpretations were purely belief driven, rather than via anything literally tangible.Nick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07199813303416083671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2263272204194822728.post-89013076442498495032010-09-14T07:21:01.187-07:002010-09-14T07:21:01.187-07:00When you consider the many different interpretatio...When you consider the many different interpretations of what the Bible is actually saying about fallen angels and demons (some schools of thought don't even equate them with one another) it would be very interesting to learn what predisposed the C.E. to accept one interpretation over another. Also it would be very interesting to learn how the C.E. could determine that the Christian mythos is "real" (fallen angels, etc.) through some real world investigation.Ricky Poolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07961047550977479085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2263272204194822728.post-25502485712374516072010-09-08T15:05:12.165-07:002010-09-08T15:05:12.165-07:00Thanks Nick,
I'll contact you once I've ...Thanks Nick, <br /><br />I'll contact you once I've finished reading the book; which I just ordered on Amazon.com<br /><br />JohnJohn W. Ratcliffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13580494289034594888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2263272204194822728.post-40688287803784413922010-09-08T13:59:17.128-07:002010-09-08T13:59:17.128-07:00Hey John
Many thanks for the comments. Yes, I agr...Hey John<br /><br />Many thanks for the comments. Yes, I agree that the UFO phenomenon represents the manifestation of entities from some other reality, but what they are is indeed open to debate, such as ET, demonic etc.<br /><br />Yes, I'm fine with being interviewede about this, how the story came about, the theories and ideas etc.<br /><br />Cheers<br />NickNick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07199813303416083671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2263272204194822728.post-16720613673337306312010-09-08T13:42:36.353-07:002010-09-08T13:42:36.353-07:00How does calling an anomalous phenomenon 'demo...How does calling an anomalous phenomenon 'demonic' give any additional meaning? It still doesn't explain who made the craft, how they were made, where they come from, the physics of their technology, etc.<br /><br />In one sense I agree, what we call the UFO phenomenon can be correlated with what people have previously ascribed to as 'demonic'. Also, the term 'demonic' carries with it a connotation of danger, deception, and entities which do not have our best interests at heart. Once again, I think the perceived behavior of the UFO phenomenon fits this description.<br /><br />All that said, it still does nothing to illuminate the problem. If someone things calling a flying saucer a 'demon' answers any questions, I would tend to disagree. Where is the demon flying saucer factory located?<br /><br />Personally, my best theory for the UFO phenomenon is that it represents an introduction into our reality from some 'other' reality. What that 'other' reality 'is' remains a complete and utter mystery to me. If you want to say this 'other' reality is populated by 'demons', well that's fine as well but it still doesn't provide any real answers about their origin, physics, or mode of operation.<br /><br />Nick, after I read your book I look forward to possibly interviewing you on this topic.<br /><br />I can only assume that you are telling us what you learned some people believe, not what you believe yourself.<br /><br />After 8 years of George Bush it doesn't surprise me one bit that people with fanatical and irrational religious beliefs, even apocalyptically minded eschatologists roam the halls of our government 'think tanks'.<br /><br />JohnJohn W. Ratcliffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13580494289034594888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2263272204194822728.post-34134006970365654482010-09-07T10:20:03.811-07:002010-09-07T10:20:03.811-07:00Guy:
Yep, they did conclude that the demonic theo...Guy:<br /><br />Yep, they did conclude that the demonic theory wass correct, based around their investigations. However, some of them did have Christian belief systems already.<br /><br />However, some might argue that having belief system doesn't rule out the possibility of it being real. <br /><br />It's a very complicated story with lots of odd twists and turns.<br /><br />I have my copies arrived now, so mailing to you tomorrow morning.Nick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07199813303416083671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2263272204194822728.post-41331308410070307022010-09-07T10:16:44.035-07:002010-09-07T10:16:44.035-07:00Andreas:
Yeah, may take a bit longer, but I would...Andreas:<br /><br />Yeah, may take a bit longer, but I would think that you should see it avaialble this week sometime.Nick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07199813303416083671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2263272204194822728.post-9232133662096317242010-09-07T10:16:09.080-07:002010-09-07T10:16:09.080-07:00Trained Observer:
Yeah, one of the things I stres...Trained Observer:<br /><br />Yeah, one of the things I stress in the book is that, for the Collins Elite, their conclusions are based in part around the fact that they hold this as a belief system too. So, people could (and I'm sure they will!) argue that the ETH, or the time-travel theories for UFOs are belief systems too - which they are.<br /><br />Ufology is, of course, very belief-driven, depending on a person's views, and the UFO-demon angle is the same.Nick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07199813303416083671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2263272204194822728.post-55766503179375634712010-09-07T10:13:32.591-07:002010-09-07T10:13:32.591-07:00"as demonic activity almost by default...&quo..."as demonic activity almost by default..." <br />I was interviewed for this book, and the way I understand it the group came to the conclusion as a result of their investigation, not via a default or pre-conceived notion. As a Christian researcher, I deal with the "knee-jerk reaction" (aka "by default") aspect of the topic, and and ask "what's the evidence" for this view. See http://www.AreAliensDemons.com<br />GuyGuy Malonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08895917361130883708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2263272204194822728.post-18688692524122986322010-09-07T10:12:40.545-07:002010-09-07T10:12:40.545-07:00Hi Nick!
Thanks for your answer! But i guess it s...Hi Nick!<br /><br />Thanks for your answer! But i guess it still needs some time here, amazon.de doesn't seem to be aware of it yet ..<br /><br />http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?__mk_de_DE=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=nick+redfern+final+events&x=0&y=0<br /><br />AndreasShu'Gihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740509644416208463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2263272204194822728.post-31083070806264033222010-09-07T09:02:23.767-07:002010-09-07T09:02:23.767-07:00Wow, I've never heard of the Collin's Elit...Wow, I've never heard of the Collin's Elite before. There seems like there has always been plenty of the UFOs=Demons speculation on youTube though. I guess if Jeff Sharlet is right (The Family) there is a contingent of fundamentalist Christian crazy at the heart of government, then I guess they'd see UFOs as demonic activity almost by default.Ricky Poolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07961047550977479085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2263272204194822728.post-16795129989161226102010-09-07T08:35:52.463-07:002010-09-07T08:35:52.463-07:00Hi Andreas
You should be able to get it from all ...Hi Andreas<br /><br />You should be able to get it from all Amazon outlets right now.<br /><br />NickNick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07199813303416083671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2263272204194822728.post-71006867063420929892010-09-07T08:28:27.993-07:002010-09-07T08:28:27.993-07:00Hi!
Any idea when it will be available in Europe ...Hi!<br /><br />Any idea when it will be available in Europe (via Amazon eg)?<br /><br />Thanks, AndreasShu'Gihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10740509644416208463noreply@blogger.com